Re: Plot Point

by dagwead (03.29.11 10:16 pm)

Kind of makes a body think about what types of “wild times” are better than others, you know? The funny thing is, most people in the world would be happy with having their butts covered—not everyone is really driven to make a million bucks. I always think about the cardioid figure, with its “inner loop” as the amount of money to cover everyone's basic needs—that still leaves plenty of money to spend on whatever—how do we level out the schizoid “profits at all costs” with that inner loop? You hear about billionaires giving away vast sums, which is great. The tax breaks for the rich in the US is a big chafe. Things just have to level out. The world becomes more overpopulated by the second. We don't need mass slaughter—we've got enough problems as it is. How do we keep as many people as possible from becoming desperate? I'm a little desperate, staying with my folks, but...even that is simple sounding to say here in the states; doesn't hold a candle...the big economic shift has to be from amassing personal wealth to taking care of as many as possible. There would be plenty to do still, and fortunes to be made. What do we do?

Re: Plot Point

by CAP (03.30.11 04:09 pm)

We live by night.

Re: Plot Point

by sirin (03.31.11 12:15 pm)

Notwithstanding the fact that in UAE, less than a fifth of a population exploited 4/5 of the inhabitants… Duba´ belongs to the UAE which belongs to the CCG, a cooperation council which launched Saudi Arabian military troops (!!!!) to Bahrain so as to shamelessly protect a segregationist monarchy against its own people, with the help of Sunni foreigners.
Therefore, those who participate to this fair are acting, implicitly but deliberately, against the people of Bahrain.
So, according to me, in this occasion talking about art or even about Egypt or Tunisia is more than just indecent: can someone not understand the meaning of the invasion of a country by foreign troops in order to back a dictatorship!
The odor of money is far away from scent when, even implicitly, you are party to a repression and crimes against a people, by acting against the majority of the citizens of a foreign country.
In this case, is it “art for art’s sake”, “business of art above all” or just “a shame”?
That is the question... Concerning “To be or not to be”, the answer should obviously be “not to be... there and not participate.”

Re: Plot Point

by dagwead (03.31.11 02:25 pm)

Art goons who don't know how to talk about anything else. Goon goon. The weird thing about the corporate politics in terms of power structure in the US and China is, well, corporations can “get over” in the US in a way they can't with China. Corporate interests send American soldiers to war, funded by US taxes (at least in theory). Oilfields in Iraq taken over, contracts given to Chinese government (i.e. not a U.S. corporation, or corporation from any other nation). Since the Chinese government is the corporation itself, essentially, the buck basically stops there (i.e. there is no difference to widgetize, like there is between US govt and US corporations). I'm sure there is more nuance to it than that. I guess the upshot is, strangely enough, it's in China's interest to keep peace in the US, in terms of stable retail markets than it is for the new form Demogrepublican Partytiers (CAP “you can go eff corporate sex with 'dem UND duh artworld”!). So here on Kafka's Planet Oklahoma, we get to be clowns, soldiers, and inventors. The U.S. still makes good ideas. But the present set up isn't really sustainable. I walk around the mall thinking “we can probably do this for another twenty years.” Do I really need V. Westwood kneehighs, that strangely resemble socks I already own? Not really. Sometimes I wonder, if, based on the way the power structure works now, since the money guides everything, whether China will think about, in the big picture, whether the historical contention between (I will say) mainland China and Formosa, what that historical power struggle means, in terms of the present way power seems to be working. Being allowed to think for yourself gives you a chance to come up with ideas which can be put to work.

Re: Plot Point

by dagwead (03.31.11 02:33 pm)

goon meaning “night”. it's scary when I sound like I'm reporting for the Economist but sometimes looking from that perspective helps put everything in perspective. the himalayan institute is a group doing humanitarian-based projects, using corporate models. i think there are good and bad examples of any kind of government. good and bad corporations. i don't know, no easy answers.

Re: Plot Point

by CAP (03.31.11 05:35 pm)

Right on Sirin.

1. Emirate Prince tortures Afghan because he brought 1 load of grain instead of 2
Sheikh Issa Bin Zayed Al Nayhan is the son of the late United Arab Emirates President Zayed Bin Sultan Al Nahyan and brother of Crown Prince Mohammed Bin Zayed Al Nahyan.

One of the Sheikh's many torture victims was Mohammed Shah Poor, an Afghan who did business with the Sheikh. After Poor fell into the Sheikh's disfavor, the Sheikh personally tortured Poor for more than forty-five minutes. The Sheikh was assisted by several members of the Abu-Dhabi police. The torture involved shooting an M-16 into the ground in front of where Poor was kneeling, stuffing sand into his mouth, sticking nails repeatedly into his buttocks, whipping him with a board containing nails, repeatedly kicking his head, whipping his buttocks until they bled, pouring salt onto his wounds, pouring lighter fluid onto his scrotum and lighting it on fire, sticking a cattle prod up his anus, and running over him with the Sheikh's Mercedes SUV. As has now become his custom, at the Sheikh's direction, the torture session was videotaped.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1176091/UAE-prince-caught-camera-torturing-Afghan-trader.html

Sheikh Issa bin Zayed al-Nahyan

www.youtube.com/watch?v=4I81ArtQgn8